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National ID Cards

Brad

WHG

Well as I expected there is much ado about the proposed national ID card as part of the Schumer/Graham amnesty. Now, I like most Americans do not like the Feds/ state or any other agency or business having info on me or for that info to become available to other interests.  But as we examine today’s society, how much privacy do we really enjoy? Our financial information is collected and reported to at least 3 big clearing houses. We have to submit records to have a child, to drive, to enroll our children into school,to get a visa or passport and for most of us to apply for a job. If we need government social service help, we are finger printed,  our income and household members names and SS numbers are required. Proof of residence is required to get a mailbox at the USPS. If you purchase real estate, life insurance or use a medical facility you information becomes part of a data base.

The idea of a national ID card is repulsive. But I believe we are already there. It is call a SS card.  As for personal information, a quick search with Google shows that there are numerous ways for people to obtain information about you legally. Information is in the public record and various other collection data bases.

So what about the idea of a national ID card? I don’t believe a new card is necessary. What I believe is that SS cards should be made at least as secure as credit cards or driver’s licenses. Of course those opposing anything that would be effective against identity thief, fraud or illegal workers will say the cards could be forged. Well that is indeed possible, but it doesn’t stop credit card companies from doing billions of dollars of business using semi secure cards. It doesn’t stop states from licensing people to drive in their state, or allowing those licenses to be used for identification.

SS cards should be made more secure. A picture and thumb print along with a magnetic  strip with encrypted number would go along way to prevent fraud, identity theft and illegals in the work place. If the government is not going to make the cards secure and protect identities, then those cards/SS numbers should not be used as an identifier for the IRS, credit and other functions or services.

On the use of a card as a provision of CIR,  it is a scam. A national ID card would be challenged by various groups on privacy and right to work  statutes. The security provision that the cards would provide would be watered down or nullified by lawsuits. The end result would be an amnesty without any enforcement. If SS cards were enhanced with better security, amnesty or CIR would  not be needed. Such a card would be a big deterrent and a serious boost to the process of attrition. Without fraudulent identification, illegal aliens would self deport.

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Grassroots Activists Call for ‘National Strike’ by Americans Set for April 15-18

Mark Anderson

American Free Press

Karen Quinn-Tostado of Oregon says she is just an everyday lady, but she is playing a significant role in an uncommon effort to get the American people to “face their oppressors,” as she put it. Ms. Quinn-Tostado is calling on every willing American to detach from their routine and engage in a national strike from the increasingly oppressive big business-big government matrix that has snared Americans in unpayable debt, endless toil, demolished rights and broken dreams with no apparent solution.

In cities like Detroit and Flint, Mich., entire neighborhoods of crumbling houses are vacant, and old factory sites there and elsewhere lay in ruins. Older parents are living with their adult kids (or vice versa). Entire factories have been transplanted to other countries, or totally closed.

There is an extreme lack of consumer purchasing power in this economy. Many citizens believe this cannot go on much longer.

Thus, from April 15 to April 18, Ms. Quinn-Tostado is calling for a national strike that includes these ideas: Do not send your children to school on schooldays; do not eat at chain restaurants (go to family-owned eateries or eat at home); do not buy imported goods of any kind; pull your money out of the big banks and choose a small community bank or no bank; and, among other things, decide as an individual whether paying the federal income tax or any other tax possibly deemed unjust is the right thing do to. Continue reading Grassroots Activists Call for ‘National Strike’ by Americans Set for April 15-18

Who Should Pay the Piper?

Patrick J. Buchanan

Greece this past weekend saw the worst rioting since the debt crisis began. After Athens had announced new tax hikes and budget cuts to reduce a deficit of 13 percent of gross domestic product, mobs drove guards from Greece’s Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and attacked police.

In our own country, students, teachers and administrators at UC-Berkeley held a “Strike and Day of Action to Defend Education” to demand more money from taxpayers—for themselves.

How badly are they suffering?

According to Peter Robinson of Hoover Institution, California spends $13,000 per student in the state system, compared to $6,000 in New York.

Yet riots in Greece and demonstrators in California do portend a time of troubles. For the budget cuts and tax hikes needed to keep the welfare states of Europe operating as populations age and fewer children are born will be staggering and endless.

And, in the U.S., California is where we all are headed. Continue reading Who Should Pay the Piper?

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DHS corrects report that overstated ICE deportations under Obama

Spencer S. Hsu and N.C. Aizenman
Washington Post

Months after reporting that the number of illegal immigrants removed by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement increased 47 percent during President Obama’s first year in office, the Department of Homeland Security on Monday corrected the record, saying the actual increase in those deported and “voluntary departures” was 5 percent.

The 387,790 illegal immigrants removed by ICE in fiscal 2009 was still a record, as cited in the department’s Fiscal Year 2009 Annual Financial Report, which was dated Nov. 16.

A DHS spokesman said the report erred by lumping together in the 2009 figure the number of illegal immigrants deported with those permitted to leave on their own power rather than being physically removed by ICE, an option called “voluntary departure.”

Including both categories, ICE removed 387,790 in illegal immigrants in the year ending Sept. 30, 2009, compared with 369,221 in 2008 — a 5 percent increase.

Counting only those deported by ICE, the total grew 13 percent, from 264,541 in 2008 to 298,401 in 2009.

In a statement, the department said, “We are working with the Chief Financial Officer to clarify this information.”

The error came to light Monday when grass-roots immigrant rights groups assailed President Obama’s immigration policies, calling his record on deportations harsher than that of his predecessor, George W. Bush.

Separately, ICE reported that as of Feb. 1, four months into fiscal 2010, total removals are running at a rate 20 percent below last year, or 17 percent lower counting only deportations.

A DHS spokesman said figures “inherently fluctuate month to month.”

Matt Chandler added, “This administration is focused on smart, effective immigration enforcement that focuses first on those dangerous criminal aliens who present the greatest risk to the security of our communities, not sweeps or raids to target undocumented immigrants indiscriminately.”

ID Card for Workers Is at Center of Immigration Plan

I have said for a long time a change is needed to make SS cards secure.  Put a person’s picture/thumb print on it much like a drivers license. Put a credit card type magnetic strip on it to be scanned  by the employer. It checks the info against an improved e-verify data base. A person’s status could be checked in minutes just like a credit card charge.

I understand the issues about privacy, but in this day and age is any personal information really private? I think the ACLU is using privacy as an issue to weaken enforcement. You can almost bet they would sue to get this part of the legislation thrown out. That would leave just the amnesty and it’s resulting problems.

How about you numb nuts in Congress forget the amnesty and  work towards implementing the SS card change now. You can revisit the amnesty/ immigration changes in 5-10 years. If you would make it difficult for illegal aliens to get a job, an amnesty wouldn’t even be an issue.

LAURA MECKLER

WSJ

Lawmakers working to craft a new comprehensive immigration bill have settled on a way to prevent employers from hiring illegal immigrants: a national biometric identification card all American workers would eventually be required to obtain.

Under the potentially controversial plan still taking shape in the Senate, all legal U.S. workers, including citizens and immigrants, would be issued an ID card with embedded information, such as fingerprints, to tie the card to the worker.

The ID card plan is one of several steps advocates of an immigration overhaul are taking to address concerns that have defeated similar bills in the past.

The uphill effort to pass a bill is being led by Sens. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) and Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.), who plan to meet with President Barack Obama as soon as this week to update him on their work. An administration official said the White House had no position on the biometric card.

“It’s the nub of solving the immigration dilemma politically speaking,” Mr. Schumer said in an interview. The card, he said, would directly answer concerns that after legislation is signed, another wave of illegal immigrants would arrive. “If you say they can’t get a job when they come here, you’ll stop it.”

The biggest objections to the biometric cards may come from privacy advocates, who fear they would become de facto national ID cards that enable the government to track citizens. Continue reading ID Card for Workers Is at Center of Immigration Plan

E-Verify bill clears Senate

A law with no penalties? Politician’s motto:  “Let’s appear to be doing something even if we are not.”

Cathy McKitrick

Salt Lake Tribune

A bill requiring Utah businesses with 15 or more employees to verify the legal immigration status of job applicants passed the Senate Friday, but only after lawmakers stripped out proposed criminal penalties for companies in violation.

Sponsored by Sen. Chris Buttars, R-West Jordan, the E-Verify bill, SB251, prompted heated debate on the floor before it was approved and sent to the House on a 24-4 vote.

“The federal government has said that E-Verify will become the backbone against illegal immigration,” Buttars said in defense of his bill.

Sen. Ross Romero, D-Salt Lake City, opposed the measure even after the penalties were amended out.

“There is no penalty for noncompliance, but that begs the question, why adopt a law without penalties?” he asked in an interview after the vote. “The benefits of SB251 will be small compared to the burden on businesses.”

Sen. Luz Robles, D-Salt Lake City, unsuccessfully tried to bump the threshold of employees in a business from 15 to 500.

“The problem with E-Verify is that it’s just a match between a name and a number,” Robles said, cautioning that broad use of E-Verify will be discriminatory against women who change their names when they marry.

“You will be creating a mess and a more complicated system for small businesses,” said Robles, adding that she was a victim of identity theft herself. “This will not solve the problem of illegal immigration.”

If SB251 becomes law, businesses that use it would benefit by being exempt from prosecution if they mistakenly hire people who are in the country illegally, said Buttars.

“It’s like an insurance policy,” Buttars said. “You’re protected — why wouldn’t you want that?”

Rahm Emanuel blocking progress on immigration reform says Hispanic lobby

Patrick Roberts
Irish Central

Rahm Emanuel has emerged as the major problem within the White House on reform of immigration.

A New York Times magazine article due out this Sunday reports that Hispanic leader in Congress believe that he does not take the the issue seriously and is the person blocking progress.

The New York Times writer Peter Baker reports that “The Congressional Hispanic Caucus say he does not pay attention to their issues. Hispanic lawmakers blame him for a provision inserted into the Senate health care legislation that would bar illegal immigrants from buying policies on new insurance exchanges even with their own money, and they complain that he is not putting any energy behind liberalizing immigration laws.

“There are strong feelings about Rahm Emanuel among members of the Hispanic caucus,” Representative Nydia Velázquez of New York, the head of the caucus, told The Times.

“People feel Rahm Emanuel has not been helpful in moving forward. He’s always about the numbers. He’s always about being the pragmatist. He’s always about winning.”

Private criticism of Emanuel by immigration groups is nothing new but the very public nature of these comments is.Emanuel is famously impatient about pushing any legislation that he believes has a low chance of passing, preferring the president spend time on issues that he can get legislation passed on.

His problems with the Hispanic lobby however, may come back to haunt him. The New York Times makes clear he is a Chief of Staff under siege, whose job may be on the line in the next few weeks or so, especially if the health care legislation stalls again. If he is in difficulty the Hispanic lobby is hardly likely to want to help.

Ten percent in jail are suspected illegals

Chris Conrad

MEDFORD — Inmates with no-bail immigration holds placed upon them by the federal government make up close to 10 percent of the Jackson County Jail population, a number that has held steady for the past five years, according to Jackson County Sheriff Mike Winters.

Out of approximately 230 current inmates, 23 have been tagged with no-bail holds by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.

Winters said the number is manageable with his present level of jail staff, but an increase could create problems in the future if more illegal immigrants are arrested on state and local charges.

“We deal with it effectively at this time, but we would struggle if the number of inmates with ICE holds would, say, double over the next few years,” Winters said.

People arrested on suspicion of being in the country illegally pose unique problems for county jails because the suspects are usually not released on bail to appear in court at a later date.

ICE spokesperson Lorie Dankers said state courts can grant suspected illegal immigrants bail, but the person would immediately be taken into ICE custody upon release from a county jail. “Once they posted bail, we would transport them to our holding center in Tacoma,” Dankers said. “They would wait there until their court date to face state charges.” Continue reading Ten percent in jail are suspected illegals